Simon's Family History
Jan Lucasz SCHOUTEN (John / Johannes / SCOUTEN / SCHOETEN / SCHOUTE etc.)
Re. Are Jan Le Conte & Jan/John Schouten the same person?
Jan Schouten would appear to have been a carpenter. He is mentioned as such
in a deed in 1680 (see below). He is also recorded
operating two sloops. Perhaps he built his own boats, two of which have been mentioned,
"The Hope" and "The Liberty".
A case involving John Scouten on 10 Feb 1677/8 (see below), mentions the supply of a boat, but is unclear as to whether John was the builder or recipient of the boat.
I therefore do not agree with some researchers who say that Jan Schouten is the same person as Jan Le Conte, a shoemaker who arrived in 1659 on "de Otter". Additionally, Jan or John Schouten was already in America by 1857 as described below. And there is no mention in the records of Jan Schouten being a shoemaker, only a carpenter and a boat owner & operator, as evidenced in several documents mentioned below. It seems unlikely that a shoemaker became a carpenter. I therefore say that Jan Schouten and Jan Le Conte are two separate persons.
Documented occurrences of John Schouten :-
1657 - Servant Johannes Blenck, as farm hand to Joannes Lucasz Schouten.
1657 - Servant Wilhelmus Stilmenck, as farm hand to Johannes Lucasz Schouten.
['Ships Passenger Lists - New York & New Jersey' by Carl Boyer, pgs 110 & 115]
1660 - During some
troubles at Altona, Penn :-
"Jan Schoeten arrived here from Maryland, as I was ready to seal this, who says, that many there would return here, if I would assure them of my protection, which I promised till I should receive your orders on the subject"
Albany Records, Beekman's letter, vol. xvii. p.39.
['Annals of Pennsylvania : from the discovery of the Delaware' by Samuel Hazard 1850, pg.303 - .]
1662 - List of voluntary contributors
for a clergyman for the village of Bergen, New Jersey :-
Jan Schulten f 25.
['Yearbook of the Holland Society of New York, 1914 : Bergen Book' pg 14.]
28 Dec 1662 -
"Petition of Inhabitants of Bergen and Communipaw against fencing in
certain lands and order thereon"
Jan Scholten one of the signatories.
4 Jan 1663 - "Order for the Survey of a certain tract of land in dispute, at Bergen". This is a continuation of the fencing dispute. Jan Scholten appeared as one of the deputies for the said village representing one side in the dispute.
['History of Essex and Hudson Counties, New Jersey' by William H. Shaw 1884]
29 May 1663 (Tues) - Court Minutes - Cornelius Janzen, woodsawyer, pltf.
v/s Jan Schoute, deft. Pltf. demands from deft. the timber to contract for the
six hundred feet of plank sawed for him. Deft. admits having received the six
hundred feet of plank; says the timber is ready and that it needs being hauled
out; further, that he must have sixteen guilders from the pltf. and as soon as
these are paid he shall deliver the timber. Burgomasters and Schepens order
deft. to deliver the timber according to contract on the Strand, and order the
pltf. to deposit sixteen guilders on consignment with this City.
[ The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., Vol. iv, pg 248.]
A.D. 1664 - Register of the members belonging to the
Church of Bergen :-
1st May 1664 - 624 Jan Schouten & 625 Sara Schouten }Dismissed.
(N.B. All the initial entries had the notation - Dismissed. ??)
[ 'Yearbook of the Holland Society of New York, 1915 : Bergen Book' Executive Office, 1915., pg58.]
At a Court on
19 April 1665 held at the City Hall of the New Amsterdam :-
List of the Burghers and inhabitants of that City assessed :-
Behind Pearl St - Jan Schouten fl.1.
[ The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., Vol.v., pg 223.]
Mayor's Court on 6th April 1669 at New York :-
"John Schouten, plaintiff v/s Hendrick Jans Spiers wife, defendant : Parties agreed.
[' The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., pg 176.]
Papers Relating to the Colonies on the Delaware
Warrt for the clapping of Wm Douglas in Prison
These are in his Majesties name to require you to take into your custody the body of Wm Douglas brought hither a prisoner from Newcastle in Delaware in the Sloop of John Schouten, he having been formerly banisht out of this Governmt for great Misdemeanor & yt you him safely keep in custody wthout Bail or Mainprize untill you shall receive further Order concerning the same; And for so doing this shall be your warrt.
Given under my hand &c. this 16th day of Decr 1672
To Mr Allard Anthony Sheriff of this City or his Deputy.
['Pennsylvania Archives : Series 2, Volume V' p.654]
March 10, 1673.
Pass for John Schouten to go to Delaware.
Permit and suffer the bearer hereof John Schouten to passe out of this Port with the sloope The Hope to Newcastle in Delaware river or parts adjacent, from thence to returne again with his loading to this place without any manner of lett hindrance or molestation whatsoever.
Given &c. this 10th of March 1672/3
To all Officers to whom this may concern
[Pennsylvania. Archives, 2nd series, vol. 5-6. pp. 657. ]
meeting on 8 Oct 1673 of the Governor and Council held at Fort William Hendrick
(Fort Amsterdam, NY) :-
The burgomasters of the City being present, the Governor submitted to them the necessity of demolishing or removing some of the houses and gardens (built 40 years before), situated under the walls of the fortress. He requested that the Burgomasters to propose the same to the owners and report the result. The persons interested appeared by invitation on Oct. 10, and responded as follows :
First, Pieter De Riemer is willing to remove his house, but requests that Muyen's lot, or one at the water's side be given him. Six others were questioned viz:
Symon Barenzen, Jan Schouten, Isaac Grevenrath, Jan Everzen Bout, Jan Dirckzen Mayer, Lodowyck Post.
On Oct 16, an ordinance was passed requiring all these persons to move immediately, and making provisions for their indemnity by exchange of lots, and by levying a duty on certain imports to defray their losses. This order was carried out as nearly as requested."
['The De Riemer family' by T.A. Wright 1905, pgs 15 & 16. Source quoted as "Wilson's Memorial History; vol. I, p.447".]
1674 - List of the owners in the City, about the year 1674, at the final
cession of the English, the property being classified according to its relative
value, as first, second, third and fourth; with the national descent of the
persons named - given to illustrate the condition of the population at that era
- and their estimated worth :-
On the present Pearl Street, between Whitehall and State Streets, then known as 'Pearl Street'.
- John Schouten....... Second ......... Dutch ......... $1,000 [pg.322]
['History of the City of New York' by David Thomas Valentine - 1858]
At a Court on 10 March 1674 held at the City Hall of the City of Orange :-
"Having sent for the skippers and barquiers of this City and these appearing, they are informed of the order of the Hon'ble Governor General, that no more than two sloops shall go at once to Willemstatdt and Esopus and one to the South River, and that alternately, according as it shall be determined by lot; also that they, the skippers, shall not convey any passengers hence without passport. Whereupon the skippers answered as follows :-
Skipper Kip answers, that he thinks it better, that whenever the sloops depart in their turn by lot, according to the Governors order, what they then earn shall be put in a common fund and every one shall then draw his share out according to the size of his sloop. (amongst several other answers) :-
Jan Schouten answers, that the small sloops ought to be allowed to make one voyage for one of the big ones."
...His Hono. has resolved and ordered that said skippers and barcquiers shall, according to the majority of their opinions, sail in a common stock, from which common fund each of them shall earn and draw out his share according to the size and proportion of his vessel at the end of the aforesaid alternating time : and said skippers and barcquiers shall in sailing regulate themselves according to the ... orders made herein."
[' The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., Vol.vii., pgs 70,71.]
At a Court on 18th April 1674 of the City of Orange :-
The annexed petition being read and taken into consideration, it is apostilled as follows :- Whereas as Schout, Burgomasters and schepens find the petitioner's request just, the same is granted and allowed them, and petitioners are hereby authorized to appoint two persons, to whom each skipper on his arrival shall report the quantity of his cargo and deliver for keeping the freight money which it produced, to the end that each may enjoy his just right; And all and every one of the skippers sailing the common stock are hereby ordered and charged to observe and obey it."
[' The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., Vol.vii., pg 78.]
At a Court on 24th April 1674 held at the City Hall of the City of Orange :-
"On the skippers petition representing, that Jan Schouten and Symen Barentsen are unwilling to deliver up the monies to the persons designated notwithstanding the apostille and order of this Court dated 18th April last. Apostilled -
The W. Court orders the Schout again to notify Jan Schouten and Symen Barentsen to obey the order and apostille granted on the 18th instant on the petitioners request or on further refusal this W. Court shall otherwise provide."
[' The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., Vol.vii., pg 79.]
Letter of 23 April 1674
from Jeremias van Rensselaer to Hon. A. Colve, Governor General of New
"I sent to your honor from the Esopus, by the yacht of Jan Schouten, 145 schepels of wheat ....."
['Correspondence of Jeremias van Rensselaer, 1651-1674' pg.458, University of the State of New York, 1932.]
a Court on 1st May 1674 held at the City Hall of the City of Orange :-
"Stephanus van Cortland appears in Court for himself and for the remaining skippers and barcquiers; he requests to know, if Abram Lubbertsen's sloop, which Jan Schouten and Symen Baerentsen hired and were with it to Esopus, shall make two trips, to wit: once for Jan Schouten and once for Abram Lubbertsen. Thw W. Court decree, that what Abram Lubbertsen's sloop realized in freight shall come into the common fund, and whenever Abram Lubbertsen's turn comes, Abram Lubbertsen's but Jan Schouten's sloop shall sail in its place; unless the barcquiers can otherwise agree amongst themselves."
[' The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897. Vol.vii., pg.83]
26 Jun 1674 - Court Minutes - For the
case in question between Jan Cornelisse, pltf. v/s Louwies Jansen, deft., the W.
Court have nominated and authorized as arbitrators skipper Jan Scholten and
Thomas Vardon, who are hereby requested to hear the case in question and to
reconcile the parties if possible, or otherwise to report to the Court.
[' The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897. Vol.vii., pg.103]
10 Oct 1674
Return of survey for Jan Scholten, of a parcel of land on Staten Island, along the Kill van kol. Vol.XXIII, pg.411
[Cal. of Historical Manuscripts in the Office of the Sec. of State, Albany, NY - Edmund Baily O’Callaghan. Vol.2 (English), p.27]
Oct 1674 - Patent - Jan Scholten; 30 morgens of land on the Kill van Col, Staten
Island. Vol. XXIV, pg.57-433.
[Cal. of Historical Manuscripts in the Office of the Sec. of State, Albany, NY - Edmund Baily O’Callaghan. Vol.2 (English), p.31]
An assessment and tax made the 10th November 1676 for
defraying the charges of the new docks and paying the City debts and other
public duties at one penny half penny per pound :-
100 - John Scouten....00.12.06
[' Minutes of the Common Council of the city of New York, 1675- 1676', Dodd, Mead, 1905. V1., pg 31.]
9 Feb 1676 - Bond of Symon Barensen to appear at the next Court of
Assizes, to answer &c., and to keep the peace towards Jan Scholter (Scholten?,‘r’
mistaken for a ‘n’ in the old handwriting?). Vol XXV, pg.78
[Cal. of Historical Manuscripts in the Office of the Sec. of State, Albany, NY - Edmund Baily O’Callaghan. Vol.2 (English), p.44]
New York 16th Feb 1676/7 - A list of what accompts have been viewed
over from acco't to acco't And in the said acco'ts is found that it is due by
the City of New York to the following persons as followeth in wampum :-
John Schouten ....96-00.
[' Minutes of the Common Council of the city of New York, 1675- 1676', Dodd, Mead, 1905. V1., pg45.]
rate of taxation made 24th July 1677, City of New York, upon houses and vacant
 - John Schouten = 8 =.
[' Minutes of the Common Council of the city of New York, 1675- 1676', Dodd, Mead, 1905.]
10 Feb 1677/8, City of New York at a meeting at Mr Mayor's being
present all the Court except Mr Snawsell :-
Cor : Van Gloren v. John Scouten
Upon a difference inter the plaintiff and defendant concerning the building of a boat bigger and larger than their agreement. The Court refer the same to Lucas Anderson and Abraham Moll to examine the matter and to make a final end thereof or else to make their report to this Court next Court day.
[' Minutes of the Common Council of the city of New York, 1675- 1676', Dodd, Mead, 1905. V1., pg68.]
Some of following entries indicate that Jan Schouten may have gone to Pennsylvania for a few years, or at least invested in land there.
1678 - Grants of land on Neshaminy, Schuylkill, Pennypack, Poetquising.
Various grants of land on Neshaminy, &c.: .......Jan Schooten, a small quantity of marsh lying at the place called Hans Moonson's great Mill Falls, at the end thereof, so much as is fit to mow four stacks of hay, the Mill Falls being a run that comes into Schuylkill; .......
['Annals of Pennsylvania .. 1609-1682' by Samuel Hazard, 1784-1870 - Upland records, pg.318.]
Nov 1678 - A list of tydable persons - a poll tax of 26 gilders upon each
tydable (taxable) person, which included every male inhabitant in the County
between the ages of 16 and 60 years :-
At Taokanink (Tacony), Delaware Co. Pennsylvania :- Jan Schoeten ....1
['Biographical & Historical cyclopedia of Delaware Co., Pennsylvania' by Winfield Scott Garner, 1894. pg's.37-8.]
New York Secretary of State Deeds - Bk 5, pg 221 [Full
SCHOUTEN, John - Recorded 29 Jan 1680.
New York City, House and Lot south side of Pearl Street.
Grantor - LUBBERTS Frederick
[LDS Film #947839]
14 June 1683 - "the Court, upon the request of William Warner and
William Orian, ordered that the several people who held lands which the
petitioners had bought of the Indians, lying in Schuylkill, repay to the
petitioners their proportion of the 335 guilders which Warner and Orian had paid
for the whole; the following persons holding the lands within the limits of the
purchase :.....(amongst others)....; John Booles and John Schoeten, 400
['Colonial and Revolutionary families of Pennsylvania...' Lewis Pub. 1911, pg.230]
 New York the 18th April 1683
A warrant to seize flowers imported into this City in the briggantine Hopewell, John Scouten master.
To the Sheriff of the City of New York or his Deputy.
By the Deputy Mayor and Aldermen.
Whereas complaint and information hath been given that contrary to the Orders and Law's of this Government several quantities of flower are daily imported into this City, for sale and transportation, particularly in the Briggantine Hopewell John Scouten master. These are therefore in his Majesties name to require and command you to seize and secure all such flower as shall be imported and landed out of said vessel within this City or precincts  That the same may be proceeded against according to Law for which this shall be your Warrant.
[' Minutes of the Common Council of the city of New York, 1675- 1676', Dodd, Mead, 1905. V1., pg94.]
session of the Court held in Albany 3 May 1683 :-
"Some burghers of this town appeared before the court and complained that their meal, which they sent away in [the sloop of] Jan Schouten, has been attached." [full abstract]
1684, June 14. Deed
Captain Henry Greenland of New Piscataway and wife Mary to John Schouten of New York, for one half of the tract of 300 acres, granted by patent of Sept. 20, 1681, bounded S. by Richard Smith, N. by Peter Billiou, W. by Raraton R., E. by unsurveyed land. [ East Jersey Deeds - Liber A, pg135.] [full transcript]
List of Members of the Dutch Church in this City, in the year 1686. (New
Pearl Street (Between State and Whitehall streets)
Jan Schouten, en zyn h. v., Sara Jans
['History of the City of New York' by David Thomas Valentine, 1801-1869. pgs 331-2.]
In 1888, John was made tutor (guardian) of his grandchildren, the
children of his daughter Annejken (Hannah) & her husband Teunis DEY / DAY :-
Will of Teunis Dey, made 8 Nov 1888, Proved 18 Dec 1888 :-
"I make my wife executor, and my father in law John Schowten, tutor of my children."
Abstracts of New York Wills Vol I 1665-1707, page 157 :-
JAN SCHOUTEN, New York (written in Dutch form). "In the Name of God, Amen. Know all men who shall see this present Publick Instrument, that on March 9, 1685/6, before me, Wm. Bogardus, Notary Public, admitted by the Rt. Hon. Thomas Dongan; Jan Schouten and Sarah Janse, married and now living in this city well known to me and to the witnesses. Being both in good health."
They leave all their estate to "the longest liver of the two." If either remarry then one half is to go to the children. Their son Lucas is to have a double share. Their daughter Janetie, wife of Peter Stevenson, is to have only the use of her part, "so long as she is bound to him, her said husband," and is to descend to her son Johanes. "Other children" mentioned but not named.
Witnesses, Nicholas Delaplaine, Jacob Boelin. Translated by P. DeLanoy.
Proved at Court of Records, March 15, 1690.
Confirmed at Fort William in New York, May 2, in the second year of his Majesty's Reigne, 1690.
[The New York Historical Society Collections, this 1892-1902 volume features abstracts of wills on file in the Surrogates Office, City of New York, from 1665 to 1800., pg.104]
He was married to :-
Saertie (Sara / Sarah) JANS
13 Dec 1664 (Tues) - Court Minutes - Jacobie Jans, pltf. v/s Sara
Schouten, deft. Both in default.
[ The records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 anno Domini', Knickerbocker Press, 1897., Vol. v, pg 172.]
May 1694 - Petition. Sarah Schouten, of New York, butcher,
in behalf of her son-in-law, Abraham Breser.
Vol. XXXIX, pg.157.
['Calendar of Historical Manuscripts in the Office of the Secretary of State, Albany, New York'. - O’Callaghan pg.240]
26th Oct 1697 - Tax List - New York, South Ward
Sarah Schouten - £20 2s. 9d.3/4.
1703 - List of Inhabitants of New York.
Head of Families - Sarah Scouten., Family and Domestic Household - 1 male, 2 females, 5 children.
['History of the City of New York' by David Thomas Valentine, 1801-1869. pg. 359.]
The registered deeds of Sarah Schouten :-
1696 - Sale of land. - see Deed of sale.
1707 - Release of any obligations etc. - see Deed of release.
1707 - Sarah mortgaged the house in Pearl Street - see Deed of Mortgage.
1708 - Sarah again mortgaged the house in Pearl Street - see Deed of Mortgage.
i. Lucas SCHOUTEN
ii. Lysbeth SCHOUTEN married Abraham Brasier
iii. Sarah SCHOUTEN (1659-1748)
iv. Annejken (Hannah) SCHOUTEN (1666-1743), married Teunis Dey.
v. Helena SCHOUTEN
vi. Janetie SCHOUTEN
vii. Magdalena, christened 18 Oct 1669 Reformed Dutch Church of New York1.
viii. Johannes, christened 27 Dec 1674 Reformed Dutch Church of New York1.
1. Register transcripts of the Reformed Dutch Church of New York.
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